tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post1025461977997554455..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: Punishment and Reentry -- The Case of Michael VickDavid Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-59062708308932063512010-12-30T23:13:35.804-08:002010-12-30T23:13:35.804-08:00I can point to several celebrities who have gotten...I can point to several celebrities who have gotten past felony convictions and prison terms, whether those events predated their celebrity (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Allen#Arrests" rel="nofollow">Tim Allen</a>) or came in the middle of it (Robert Downey Jr.). Certainly, being in lines of work that don't have prohibitions on felons (unlike everything from barbers to kindergarten teachers, depending on the state) makes re-entering life on the outside much easier.<br /><br />Vick's case is peculiar because people find it morally worse than Allen's or Downey's (both of which were drug charges -- the same conviction that a majority of federal felons have). In particular, people who identify as dog-lovers find it fundamental to that identity to proclaim Vick to be an unforgivably evil person. Many people who will still buy Chris Brown's music or applaud him on a Fashion for a Cause runway (I actually witnessed the latter last year) -- despite Brown's having pleaded guilty to felony assault on his girlfriend -- want Vick banned from the NFL. People will excuse intimate violence by saying Rihanna must have provoked Brown, whereas dogs are fundamentally innocent and thus Vick's creating conditions for their abuse makes him a violator of innocence.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-45065381490557396782010-12-30T17:37:37.387-08:002010-12-30T17:37:37.387-08:00Not if he was an accountant and worked for a Wall ...Not if he was an accountant and worked for a Wall Street firm... Those guys are in and out of the pen and find a new job with ease! :-)sonicfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17243418673004541047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-39008172889479801942010-12-30T15:36:16.022-08:002010-12-30T15:36:16.022-08:00Assuming he weren't a celebrity, natch.Assuming he weren't a celebrity, natch.joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-17520715910613089392010-12-30T15:35:32.054-08:002010-12-30T15:35:32.054-08:00Actually, right or wrong, he may very well have a ...Actually, right or wrong, he may very well have a hard time finding employment in those and many other fields with a felony convictionon his record.joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-51503666323084120402010-12-30T09:51:08.002-08:002010-12-30T09:51:08.002-08:00My thought on Vick was - If he was an electrical e...My thought on Vick was - If he was an electrical engineer, or an accountant, would we be saying "No! He can never work in that field ever again!". Of course we wouldn't. He got a second chance, and he's making the most of it.<br /><br />On the other hand, I read that he wants to get a dog for his kids... Uhm... NO. Sucks for the kids, but they will learn a valuable lesson that some offenses can not be erased; that the consequences of ones actions can last a lifetime.sonicfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17243418673004541047noreply@blogger.com