tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post112897946456272450..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: Did I Forget Anything?David Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1129101906328014902005-10-12T00:25:00.000-07:002005-10-12T00:25:00.000-07:00David:Interesting comments, but I think the critic...David:<BR/><BR/>Interesting comments, but I think the criticism of the Feministe post is warranted.<BR/><BR/>"Blaming America first" may be an unfortunate term. But I do think that both the placement of the comment about domestic violence in America in Jill's post — in the concluding paragraph that sums up her point — and its wording have the effect of shifting the focus from the oppression of women in Saudi Arabia to the "cultural ills" that afflict women in America. If Jill had wanted merely to acknowledge that we have problems too, why not say, "Yes, America has problems with domestic violence and gender inequality, too, but to even compare them to the abuse and oppression of women in America is delusional to the point of being obscene"? The way her post is written, its main point ends up being: Let's not feel too superior to those Saudis.<BR/><BR/>For more of my comments see here:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://cathyyoung.blogspot.com/2005/10/feminism-multiculturalism-and-domestic.html" REL="nofollow">Feminism, Multiculturalism and Domestic Violence</A>Cathy Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09688616617444359647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1128987766932076282005-10-10T16:42:00.000-07:002005-10-10T16:42:00.000-07:00Sadly this distorts our entire political debate. ...Sadly this distorts our entire political debate. As a child in the sixties and a teenager in the seventies I was disillusiond by our history in regards to race. Indians and the rest along with activities in SE Asia and other parts of the third world.<BR/><BR/>By the late seventies it was clear to me the horrors occuring in Vietnam and Cambodia, the Vietnamese imperialism of Laos and N. Vietnamese suppression of S. Vietnamese, the persecution of Chinese and the Sino/Viet wars that followed yet most "leftists" who had been so concerned by Americanm abuses there were ignorant of headlines and rationalized them when they they were pointed out.<BR/><BR/>They did not care and do not care about third world people any more than the right. Of course there are exceptions, but one is anguished because the mainstream flow is one of indifference where human rights are raised only as a partisan issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1128986798657133052005-10-10T16:26:00.000-07:002005-10-10T16:26:00.000-07:00Lauren: ThanksJill: ThanksProbligo: Thanks (?)Karo...Lauren: Thanks<BR/><BR/>Jill: Thanks<BR/><BR/>Probligo: Thanks (?)<BR/><BR/>Karol: FixedDavid Schraubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1128986194044848132005-10-10T16:16:00.000-07:002005-10-10T16:16:00.000-07:00My name is spelled with a 'K'.My name is spelled with a 'K'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1128986139467833252005-10-10T16:15:00.000-07:002005-10-10T16:15:00.000-07:00With respect to the "criticism of America", you h...With respect to the "criticism of America", you have said a whole mouthful.<BR/><BR/>I posted some while back on "confirmation bias" (you can look that up on Wikipedia now I believe) and the fact that I suffer from it myself. <BR/><BR/>In relation to your analysis in this instance I think that it needs to go further.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps we should create an extension of "confirmation bias" under the heading of <B>"precognitive understanding"</B>, essentially reading (or hearing) something in such a way that it fits with existing preconceptions.<BR/><BR/>Lead balloon?<BR/><BR/>Fair enough. I still enjoyed your post.The probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1128980971117481502005-10-10T14:49:00.000-07:002005-10-10T14:49:00.000-07:00I'll second what Lauren said. Thank you.I'll second what Lauren said. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1128980247220154962005-10-10T14:37:00.000-07:002005-10-10T14:37:00.000-07:00Thank you for the more than fair analysis. Very g...Thank you for the more than fair analysis. Very grateful considering that I feel Jill and I have been misrepresented as of late.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com