tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post2668506581221231262..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: We Do/Do We?David Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-4039637004414728242021-05-19T17:43:53.642-07:002021-05-19T17:43:53.642-07:00"we do insist on recognizing Israel's rig..."we do insist on recognizing Israel's right to exist,and the Jewish people's inviolable right to security, freedom, and self determination in our historic homeland.<br /> Do we recognize Palestine's right to exist,& the Palestinian people's inviolable rights to security,freedom and self determination in their historical homeland.<br /><br />The problem is that Israel exists in Palestine and Palestine exists in Israel if one takes a long view of Israel's history An analogy would be a woman's right to exist and an unborn baby's right to exist.<br /> Thus: we do insist on recognizing a woman's right to exist, and women's inviolable right to security, (safety) , freedom, &self determination.<br /> Do we recognize the unborn baby's right to exist,and unborn babies' inviolable right to security,(safety) ,freedom and self determination.<br /> If you think this is a bad comparison consider how many Jewish holy sites are in Bethleham,Nazareth,Hebron and other places in the West Bank. and E.Jerusalem, where the Temple Mount is. <br /> Should Jewish self determinism be permitted in Palestine? Should Palestinian <br />Self determination be permitted in Israel.<br /> Is Israel the historic homeland of the Jewish people or is it their historic Holy land?<br /> Is Palestine the historic Holy land of the Palestinian people or is it their historic homeland ?<br /><br /> Anyway interesting post.<br />Mismoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09586561140100597448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-17483982527116916012021-05-19T16:23:17.599-07:002021-05-19T16:23:17.599-07:00This part:we do insist on people having an awarene...This part:we do insist on people having an awareness of antisemitic tropes & refusing to tolerate them as part of legitimate 'criticism' of Israel.<br /> Do we show vigilance in recognizing anti-Palestinian tropes, educating ourselves in what they are & scrupulously calling them out when they appear in 'criticism' of Palestinian actors.<br /><br />This doesn't line up wouldn't "do we" work better if it was show vigilance in recognizing anti-arab or anti-muslim tropes? Since antisemitism encompasses more than Israeli's or Israeli JewsMismoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09586561140100597448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-36821625683203096812021-05-19T10:25:56.435-07:002021-05-19T10:25:56.435-07:00I agree with what you are writing, but I would add...I agree with what you are writing, but I would add something: Much like (for example) the breakup of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovikia, a two state solution is as much ethnic drawing of lines as a political one, and as such, predominantly Palestinian areas in pre-67 Israel, should be included in a future Arab polity.Matthew Saroffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09182726521277446600noreply@blogger.com