tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post5472014438319215235..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: The Social Script of Objectifying MenDavid Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-81096236119867779262010-10-09T07:18:36.855-07:002010-10-09T07:18:36.855-07:00Huge media event yet?
Agreed that the Maxim compa...<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/08/us/08duke.html" rel="nofollow">Huge media event</a> yet?<br /><br />Agreed that the Maxim comparison is inapt.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-83352418545155792422010-10-06T23:31:54.230-07:002010-10-06T23:31:54.230-07:00I can't think of a comparable thing many women...I can't think of a comparable thing many women have to endure (not that many men endure this either, these things are pretty rare). Maxim publishing a list of the 50 "hottest" actresses really doesn't compare (and for that matter, these same lists exist for men). Obviously, women are objectified more than men. But the issue here really isn't objectification, it's privacy.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07617213327912889142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-69840738523271200762010-10-05T20:46:32.181-07:002010-10-05T20:46:32.181-07:00AFAIK Maxim makes list of celebrities and models w...AFAIK Maxim makes list of celebrities and models who obligingly enough pose for pictorials. There's a lot to be said about what kind of culture we're living in where that kind of exposure is seen as desirable or necessary to stay bankable as a star. But it's not really a comparable list.<br /><br />Also, the thesis here would have better support if the existence of such a list had become a huge media event. I haven't seen much of that; seems like it's largely been confined to Jezebel and some blogs responding to Jezebel.joenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-25587896067887517412010-10-05T11:15:28.833-07:002010-10-05T11:15:28.833-07:00I think the most shocking thing about this whole s...I think the most shocking thing about this whole story is... You read <i>Maxim</i>... Really???????sonicfroghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17243418673004541047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-87929909373836062812010-10-05T06:54:27.278-07:002010-10-05T06:54:27.278-07:00Most people prefer to control their reputations, i...Most people prefer to control their reputations, in sexual matters in particular but also more generally. So, I can only imagine that, apart from those at the top of the list, most of the guys on the Duke list would probably prefer not to be ranked. <br /><br />That said, I rather doubt that there is much expectation of privacy in the Duke case. People tend to talk about their adventures, girls to their girl friends and guys to other guys. Guys certainly tend to rank women and to brag about such matters. So, it is difficult for me to think that privacy is much of an issue here.<br /><br />I also do not see this as a big women's issue. I think that is a bit of a stretch, if that is what you are indicating. And, a woman's reputation does, in fact, have protection in the law - as in the law of defamation, among other places. The problem is that the scope of reputation to be defamed has changed while defamation law has not changed quite as much. <br /><br />In this case, of course, it is guys who are having their reputations impacted. Of course, were this in the old days, a girl who has many adventures risks her reputation. I rather doubt anyone in this story has much of a case - although, no doubt, a good lawyer could find some wrong somewhere. All good clean fun for lawyers.N. Friedmannoreply@blogger.com