tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post116630226026762789..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: 10% Is NothingDavid Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1167288431438551412006-12-27T22:47:00.000-08:002006-12-27T22:47:00.000-08:00I think these posts miss the point of 10% plans -w...I think these posts miss the point of 10% plans -which is choosing students based on potential rather than acheivement. See, in using 10% plans one is looking, not for the students who have acheived the greatest things (often with high parental and school imput), but rather the students who have made the best of the opportunities that they have been given across the board. It is hoped that, once such students have more opportunities they will make the most of these as well. It's like the track coach who, given two students who can run the same time, chooses the one with the worse form, because that's the one he can teach proper form to, and therefore improve his time.<BR/><BR/>Yes, one unintended consequence of 10% programs is that high schools may become more economically and racially integrated as advantaged students try to game the system. Is that really a 'problem', or just a different benefit? If the 10% programs lead to people choosing to integrate schools and neighborhoods, that might be a problem for college admission programs which are seeking to create diversity on campus. However, on a broader social level, what a great acheivement!<BR/><BR/>As for the impact on minority students from high performing high schools, if everyone were adopting 10% plans that would be a concern. In reality, that isn't happening. Having a variety of different admission systems gives opportunities to more students. The 10% admits some who would have been excluded elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1166319381787979082006-12-16T17:36:00.000-08:002006-12-16T17:36:00.000-08:00Racism is no longer the most important issue for t...Racism is no longer the most important issue for the black community.<BR/><BR/>Today something else is more threatening to the future of black babies born every day.<BR/><BR/>I started a blog to discuss my views, and see who agrees with me.<BR/><BR/>http://holdingusback.wordpress.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-1166310287371641742006-12-16T15:04:00.000-08:002006-12-16T15:04:00.000-08:00Even if there is "racial equality" in education, ...Even if there is "racial equality" in education, there is no guarantee that it will provide "equality of education".<BR/><BR/>(This is a hobby horse of mine so the short version).<BR/><BR/>NZ uses a "decile indicator" based upon the "socio-economics of the school's community". Hence the highschool my kids went to is a "Decile 10" school as it draws from an affluent community. Fifteen km down the road the equivalent highschool is rated "Decile 1".<BR/><BR/>Our local college has no problem with the standard and qualifications of teachers. Class sizes are between 25 to 35.<BR/><BR/>The highschool in Otara has about 20% of its allowed teacher positions vacant (last time I heard they were short 4 teaching and 2 non-teaching positions in an approved staff of 25), is paying up to 20% higher than the market for lower qualified teachers, and has class sizes up to 25% higher than Howick.<BR/><BR/>Do you really think that the Otara kids get the equivalent education to those in Howick?The probligohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17882103150181414348noreply@blogger.com