tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post1665063505976660603..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: "And all in the name of Moses"David Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-76627922151574572102009-06-30T07:40:04.607-07:002009-06-30T07:40:04.607-07:00Actually, there were Zionist-identified individual...Actually, there were Zionist-identified individuals pre-partition who conceptualized their support within binational frames. This quickly became unfeasible, of course, but the camp always existed. So this required a "state", yes, but not necessarily a "separate/ist" one.David Schraubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-29130677016991837232009-06-30T07:36:07.584-07:002009-06-30T07:36:07.584-07:00David,
This might just reflect my highly incomple...David,<br /><br />This might just reflect my highly incomplete knowledge of Zionism, but my understanding is that it is fundamental to Zionism to desire the establishment and maintenance of a Jewish state. That does not seem to be true of everything that goes under the heading of "Black Power." The historic powerlessness of Jewish people is a sound <i>justification</i> for establishing a Jewish state that is run by Jews and that provides refuge to Jews, but I'm puzzled as to how Zionism can be defined as NOT separatism.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-53372022881237372642009-06-29T20:20:42.520-07:002009-06-29T20:20:42.520-07:00It is nice when political ugliness is matched with...It is nice when political ugliness is matched with aesthetic hideousness, Kace.David Schraubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-25540979135604422262009-06-29T20:08:40.022-07:002009-06-29T20:08:40.022-07:00Wow, that poem is...really bad. On a literary lev...Wow, that poem is...really bad. On a literary level, not just a political one.KCFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15695872702224950577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-71030985223527003702009-06-29T16:58:53.221-07:002009-06-29T16:58:53.221-07:00"...but rather the reflection of the historic..."...but rather the reflection of the historic powerlessness of black people."<br /><br />I think we can play ball.David Schraubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-52453558724866051302009-06-29T16:56:30.651-07:002009-06-29T16:56:30.651-07:00If his understanding of Black Power is that it was...If his understanding of Black Power is that it was "not an attempt at black separatism," I'm not sure why he'd pick up on its parallels to Zionism.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.com