tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post3070526841172342235..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: Obama Calls the ACORN BluffDavid Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-87815696571829401792008-10-21T20:20:00.000-07:002008-10-21T20:20:00.000-07:00Jack Shafer makes a good point -- was it really wi...<A HREF="http://www.slate.com/id/2202774/" REL="nofollow">Jack Shafer makes a good point</A> -- was it really wise for McCain to say ACORN was "now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy," given that McCain was alive at a time when vigilantes, mobs, Klansman, and law officers killed hundreds and probably thousands of African-Americans who voted or otherwise attempted to exercise their civic rights? I would think more damage might have been done to the fabric of democracy when a significant percentage of voters couldn't vote for fear of their lives.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-24046676428274126222008-10-18T12:31:00.000-07:002008-10-18T12:31:00.000-07:00I asked in a comment thread for someone to explain...I asked in a comment thread for someone to explain how registration fraud translated into voter fraud, given the requirements not only of first-time voters' having ID but also that if the same name and address is registered multiple times, it still can vote only once and then gets crossed off. A Republican said that ACORN would use the excessive voter registrations to claim that voter suppression must have occurred, because they would be able to claim that 10,000 voters had registered yet only 5,000 voted (while knowing that actually 3,000 of the "missing" voters were fraudulent registrations). I asked him to point to an instance in which ACORN or any other major organization had used low voter turnout as prima facie evidence of voter suppression, as in my experience such accusations usually had nothing to do with statistics and a great deal to do with claimed incidents of misleading flyers, black SUVs circling precincts, etc. He couldn't point to an instance in which lower voter turnout had been so used.<BR/><BR/>Again, all of these guys' fears are about the supposed *potential* for fraud, and they're lousy at playing out how it will actually occur on a sufficiently large scale to impact elections. At best, they can find ONE GUY -- Darnell Nash -- who committed voter fraud.PGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09381347581328622706noreply@blogger.com