tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post7108862819373917617..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: What are the Stakes of "Indigenous"?David Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-465749585010751112021-10-14T02:43:41.100-07:002021-10-14T02:43:41.100-07:00I'm actually not sure whether the concept of i...I'm actually not sure whether the concept of indigenous peoples first gained traction only in relation to cases similar to Native American/Aboriginal Australian, etc., hence I asked. As Judah Bernstein pointed out, the use of the concept is quite new. The early Zionist movement, while advancing Jewish historical claims to the land, didn't use this framing, and I also wonder when it got applied to Palestinians first, too. I take it it's a reflection of the fall of Pan-Arabism, which was an alternate framework for Palestinian claims (the 1964 Palestinian national charter starts with it).LWEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239947470970748111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-5202401294179625752021-10-14T01:09:20.125-07:002021-10-14T01:09:20.125-07:00It also takes the cartoon as a spring board to dis...It also takes the cartoon as a spring board to discuss the whole indigenity issue, noting that claims of it act like moral claims, despite the seeming objectivity of definition. I’m simply continuing the discussion already started by people on Twitter. LWEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239947470970748111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-31866568466929053192021-10-13T22:55:35.396-07:002021-10-13T22:55:35.396-07:00This article is actually in response to a ridiculo...This article is actually in response to a ridiculous cartoon that was in Jewish currents. If you want to discuss that others, write it yourselfLauriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09104430954461039857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-30798755562402863502021-10-13T22:53:57.335-07:002021-10-13T22:53:57.335-07:00Jewraelis? Also the concepts of indigenous people ...Jewraelis? Also the concepts of indigenous people actually wasnt Created in relation to Native Americans only. The nice attempt at trying to distract from what’s been discussed in this article.Lauriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09104430954461039857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-63842135495683807942021-10-13T20:10:43.110-07:002021-10-13T20:10:43.110-07:00It also would be interesting to discuss other indi...It also would be interesting to discuss other indigenity claims - existing or potential - that are controversial or seem to be dubious to an observer. Maybe Armenian claim of indigenity against Turkic (Turkish and Azerbaijani) neighbors? Googling “Indigenous Armenians” reveals people making it. What factors support it? What are potential reasons for someone to be uncomfortable with it?LWEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239947470970748111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-32490911144918866302021-10-13T17:29:55.707-07:002021-10-13T17:29:55.707-07:00It's also worth noting what people were behind...It's also worth noting what people were behind the initial widespread adopting of the "Indigenous" framework. I take it they were the Native Americans, the archetypal and the most blatant victims of settler-colonialism? If so, it can be worth comparing and contrasting the application of this word to Native Americans, Jewsraelis and Palestinians and the political consequences of it. LWEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239947470970748111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-41304223461222255952021-10-13T17:28:30.865-07:002021-10-13T17:28:30.865-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.LWEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04239947470970748111noreply@blogger.com