tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post7859677572241414305..comments2024-03-18T22:21:33.261-07:00Comments on The Debate Link: Seeing Double StandardsDavid Schraubhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-51727493583402694552022-04-26T11:45:34.203-07:002022-04-26T11:45:34.203-07:00Erl -- I had not even picked up on that. It fits w...Erl -- I had not even picked up on that. It fits with behavior from a different study that came from this cadre, where they try to present DEI professionals as having an antisemitism problem because of their twitter accounts' disproportionate focus on Israel compared to China -- conveniently obscuring the problem that their data suggests the average DEI professional with a twitter account has tweeted on Israel ... less than once. Ever. Over the lifetime of their account.<br /><br />I asked them for median/modal data (I was able to identify the mean as around .8 tweets/account), and they just flat refused to provide it, but both were almost certainly either "0" or "1" anti-Israel tweet.David Schraubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-5066815921807789522022-04-26T08:23:10.597-07:002022-04-26T08:23:10.597-07:00Re: the turban question—I can't find the data ...Re: the turban question—I can't find the data directly but it's enormously suspicious the media coverage did not publicize the underlying levels. They report the comparison of the comparators as the dependent variable: "highly educated people 10 percentage points more likely to prefer Sikhs over Jews" or whatever. But that's perfectly consistent with a world where the less-educated population is 10% yes for kippot, 0% yes for turbans and the highly-educated population is 100% for both. It's a meaningless statistic without the ground reality.<br /><br />The Tablet article does show one underlying graph, though, and it's the BLM/Orthodox wedding one! <br /><br />Which comparison is as tendentious as they admit. Source: I was living in Crown Heights in 2020, tracking the COVID numbers and going to BLM protests. The BLM protests were universally masked, spaced out, outdoors, attended by young people, and unaccompanied by COVID spikes. The Orthodox weddings were inside, unmasked, full of the elderly, and at least correlated with that community experiencing greater COVID spread.<br /><br />I wanted the weddings to stop, because, Jew that I am, I like to see fewer dead bubbes and zaydes. So sue me. Erlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07522602231234725809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-64710815357990594712022-04-26T08:06:11.613-07:002022-04-26T08:06:11.613-07:00Thanks for the post—I remember this paper the firs...Thanks for the post—I remember this paper the first time it came around, and its stacking of the deck was indeed rather obvious. Good job laying it all out. Erlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07522602231234725809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-38164880420734106882022-04-25T20:34:46.302-07:002022-04-25T20:34:46.302-07:00I don't necessarily disagree. But the broader ...I don't necessarily disagree. But the broader conclusion that highly educated people are <i>more likely</i> to be antisemitic than their less educated peers probably depends entirely on whether our comparator is Russia or Mexico, or turban or crucifix.<br /><br />Put differently, is the respondent who is most willing to accommodate the turban, then the kipah, then the crucifix more or less antimsemitic than the one whose order is crucifix, then kipah, then turban? I don't know, and I actually don't think we've revealed anything.David Schraubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04946653376744012423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7321349.post-37321970744767935582022-04-25T19:59:02.580-07:002022-04-25T19:59:02.580-07:00I dunno, I would say"I think a US soldier sho...I dunno, I would say"I think a US soldier should be allowed to wear a turban but not a yarmulke" or "I think asserting that a Mexican-American legislator's opinions on issues related to Mexico are influenced by their race is outrageous, but a Jewish legislator's opinions on issues related to Israel should be fair game" seem to me to be pretty obviously and unambiguously antisemitic (the other two I would agree have enough confounding factors that it's hard to really compare)David Levhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06257193501434629163noreply@blogger.com