Sunday, November 24, 2024

Fictional Character Ideological Turing Test


If you're a Democrat, which fictional television character do you think most "embodies" contemporary Republicans? And if you're a Republican, which television character do you think Democrats would pick to answer the above question?

(Then do it vice versa -- what character do Republicans think embodies Democrats, and what character do Democrats think Republicans would pick to embody Democrats?).

I'm weirdly obsessed with thinking about this thought exercise. Unfortunately, I think it isn't really doable, if for no other reason than it presupposes a shared media culture that doesn't really exist, and in particular in my head it involves everyone sharing my particular Peak TV cast of potential characters, which definitely doesn't exist.

But nonetheless, the concept is interesting to me. Under conditions of negative polarization, I think we can assume that the selected character would be one who embodies the perceived vices of the "other side". And so one thing we'd be measuring is to what degree people have a handle on what the "other side" perceives as their most salient and emblematic vice.

For example, I've written that for me the character that most embodies the contemporary MAGA right is Jerry from Rick & Morty. But I doubt that most Republicans would guess that Jerry would be my pick. I'd guess that they'd guess I'd choose someone like Homer Simpson ("they think we're oafish idiots"), or Boss Hogg ("they think we're racists"). I don't think they think that I think (boy, that's a mouthful) that their emblematic vice is whiny entitlement and crippling beta male insecurity, which is crystallized into the character of Jerry Smith.

Who do I think Republicans would choose to embody Democrats? I'm thinking one of the characters from Lena Dunham's "Girls" (again, bracketing the fact that most Republicans have never seen that show -- and in fact, I haven't seen it either -- the point is to identify an archetype). I think they think of us as self-obsessed and self-absorbed, performatively "woke" (but massively hypocritical about it), and generally unproductive leeches who wouldn't know a "real job" if it chafed our uncalloused, manicured hands. But maybe I'm wrong, and their emblematic Democrat is epitomized by a completely different set of vices! And again, it would be interesting to learn the mismatch.

Anyway, as I said, it's an exercise that -- even just as a thought experiment -- I've always found fun to ponder. And I'm curious at people's thought processes here -- so feel free to play in the comments (i.e., if you're a Democrat say which character most embodies Republicans, and also give guesses as to which character you think Republicans would choose to embody Democrats as well as which character you imagine Republicans would guess Democrats think embodies Republicans)!

4 comments:

Alex I. said...

I think the answer for who Democrats would pick to embody Republicans is, as a Democrat, pretty easy. Down to the buffoon they built a personality cult around, they’re a bunch of Eric Cartmans.

Alex I. said...

I think a key and fundamental issue is that identity politics is an electoral winner for Republicans. And, contra the way the right (and the media) frame it, the divide between parties isn't that Dems play identity politics and Republicans don't; it's how the parties play identity politics.

Anecdotally, it appears that something that cleaved Dems apart was the intersectionality of reactionary politics-- trans issues drive away lots of non-college people. Women's issues drive away lots of men, especially of the non-college variety. Racial issues don't appear to have driven away a huge number of LGBTQ people (yet), but it wouldn't shock me if they eventually did.

And that's depressing because... capitulating on those issues is the wrong thing to do. We shouldn't buy into the right's bigoted framing of transgender issues because it might alienate some non-college black men. But it does seem quite likely that that will lose some of their votes. And that's depressing to me because I'm not a political strategist either, and the only way forward I see is... to accept that those might be losing issues, and try to overcome them.

Jack Bogdanski said...

The Democrats are definitely Mr. Magoo.

David Schraub said...

I like that one!

Is that you as a Republican characterizing Democrats, you as a Democrat predicting how Republicans would characterize Democrats, or you as a Democrat characterizing yourself?